shannan watts autopsy

Blood Alcohol. Just like those rare occasions where you laughed so hard you peed in your pants, you will pee and poop in the spontaneous relaxation of your muscles following death. I think despite her bravado, she had insecurities just like everyone else, with both herself, and her roles as wife and mother AND someone working in an MLM. Throw it away? Everyone did think I was the nutty one by what he said cause he was a great guy to them. Also, if memory serves, CW did at least one load of laundry on the night in question. She texted her GF talking about her being a single mom when she separated from Chris. I have read through this entire post and this is the one question that I dont think is getting enough attention. She was calling him honey, and being all lovey dovey in her messages to him all weekend. Police reportsPhotos of the Watts family in the police reports. They manipulate, connive and plot. I also believe in my heart that Shannan did not hurt her babies document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. The autopsy report found that Shanann was in her second trimester of pregnancy and that the "largely decomposed fetus and placental unit" was found "expelled from the gravid uterus." Nick, have any of her docs said she had clinical OCD? He said he was downstairs, came back up and they were gone. She hurt my kids., Chris said, Theyre in a freakin oil tank. Chris Watts attacked her from behind, his left hand around her throat and his right hand covering her mouth and nose. As someone who has OCD I would appreciate if everyone commenting here would look up the mental condition. They dissipate in inconvenient circumstances. Between the two preferences, a lot of interaction was visible. Is there any way you can send it to my email please. What about rigormortis?. It could be all the thrive he was taking. Unfortunately she never got the chance. He vacuumed twice a day. For example, someone with OCD could have the thought that if they dont touch a doorknob a certain number of times an exact way, they will get a disease. Thanks! GPS from Watts work truck led police to the oil well. think mass gall stones) the bottom line is CW is a Covert Narcissist whose life would enevidably have unraveled at some point as covert express traits thus as a pattern of behavior. Does anyone know where I can view the autopsy pictures and/or videos? @Karen did she get dressed for bed, or did she simply take of her jeans, throw off her flip-flops and decide to settle down for a couple of hours sleep wearing the bra, panties and t-shirt that she arrived home in? Had he planned this out, he would have killed them earlier, left in the middle of the night, in the dark, to dispose of the bodiesnot as the sun was coming up as seen in the tape. Chris Watts advised that blankets and stuffed animals were left by the sheet which was near Shananns grave. I wore my bra at night sometimes as well while pregnant because they become larger, heavier and more tender. Did anyone explain that? Shanann was strangled and the children were smothered. She was wearing a black or gray t-shirt and blue underwear. You can pooh-pooh OCD if its not you, but OCD especially for someone with a chronic disease tends to be quite significant. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Please explain. I cant believe the police let them stay in there. Do you think her phone ended up where it was because thats how and where it left her hand? It would be good to hear your assessment of his assessment. He is very thorough, very professional, analyses and peels back all the layers. dirty murderer! He was holding me down by sitting on me, one leg on each side of my stomache. He may have sprung himself on her in the bathroom, came in after her and turned the light off or something, being an easier/tiled place to clean up any traces? Read Thomas Molletts forensic report https://crimerocket.com/2018/12/17/thomas-molletts-forensic-report-on-shanann-watts-post-mortem-blood-alcohol-level/. So that indicates perhaps that she and Bella were murdered around the same time as Shanann Im guessing. OCD can be like gluten-sensitivities. As far as the BAC goes, it had been over 100 hours from the estimated time of death to when the samples were taken at autopsy. That is what is difficult; without a trial we have no way of knowing all the forensic evidence and what tests the state started to perform or did perform. Theyd already pulled $10,000 out of Chris 401K to try and get caught up on their mortgage, but they were somehow burning through money like there was no tomorrow. Im just not comfortable sleeping without it. Since its clear CW is a flagrant coward, I am finding it hard to imagine him having enough courage to have looked at her eye to eye while he was strangling her. Would love your thoughts, please comment. Do you think she was murdered elsewhere? I am not sure that he planned the murders. But I am of course hoping that she was totally unaware in her unconsciousness. If the digestive tract opens up at death, where did Shannan, Bella and Celeste poop? I was married to someone, super attentive dad, husband. They say the questions had nothing to do with infidelity so it doesnt matter whether or not he had an affair. 1. Bella and Celeste were thrown away, the prosecutor said adding that investigators found scratch marks on one of the girls bodies and tufts of hair on the opening to one of the oil tanks, the television station reported. Perhaps they had one via phone or text. Shanann's autopsyconcluded that her cause of death was asphyxiation due to manual strangulation. Only feces already in the lower part of the large intestine/colon is going to evacuate and even then- it depends on the position of the body, the amount of decomposition and rigor mortis. I think he snapped, pulled her off of Cece punched her in the face to knock her out and then strangled her with one hand. Look up alcohol levels in postmortem state. Id recite a few examples from case law but I dont think youre really here to discuss anything. Thats a harsh indictment to a woman who cant defend herself. I love that guy. Celestes was similar. The Watts family killings and the financial devastation, infidelity, and what appears on the videos as a mindless neglect of the children overlay all these sad accounts. Chris said Shanann arrived home from a trip. police fileA picture Shanann sent a friend. On Aug. 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann, 34, in their Colorado home. Then he agreed to go to Aspen with her for the weekend following her death. Its actually not uncommon. No, ONE fully-formed, perfect adult and TWO fully-formed, perfect BABIES. What about rigormortis? Also zero evidence that she was in bed. PLEASE know, all of these words are helping me to work through an event that is really messing with my head. Anyway, this is the scenario I would paint if I were the prosecutor in the case. I think he had mental issues too. Even if they appear to be dead or as the agent in this case said decapitated you call & plead for someway to help fix them. Chris Watts is a narcissistic cold blooded killer of children and their mother. Chokeholds and Strangleholds are used in martial arts, combat sports, self-defence, law enforcement and in military hand to hand combat applications. I dont know her daily habits, but i use mine as an alarm. Smothering is albeit horrific, a more a gentle or approach that a mother may take. Even if he raged and killed Shannon because she killed her girls, I would much rather be guilty for killing Shannon because she killed my babies then be a monster guilty of killing my daughters so I would have called for help so the cops could do their job and get the evidence to back up my story. I believe the DA said there was no evidence of fibers related to the smothering of Bella and Celeste. As far as OCD I dont believe she had it This shows how little insight you have into this case, and into who Shanan was in particular. I dont think enough people are looking at the theory that Chris had flipped a switch with her in the days leading to her death. https://jcp.bmj.com/content/54/5/348, This is why Shanann had no defensive injuries, and this technique would account for everything in her autopsy, from blood alcohol/ethanol levels to an unbroken hyoid bone He failed all 3 questions. The Weld County Coroner released the complete autopsy reports of Bella, Celeste, and Shanann Watts, who were murdered by Chris Watts on August 13. One thing that was truthful that came out of NKs mouth was that he lied about everything. Saying she will be there with lollipops and other things. Or it might be that a place for everything and everything in its place is a good way for me to manage time being able to grab what I need when I need it without having to faff around looking for it. I believe she was probably sleeping when he smothered her. I believe those stains were on the sheets and thats why they were pulled off. Or do they just know? The manner of death is homicide, the autopsy for Bella said. She said on one video her kitchen has to be very clean, I know people that have spotless kitchens but rest of house is a mess. Did you live with them? Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Theres also a serious fundamental problem with your theory, which goes to the forensics. https://www.medicaldaily.com/what-forensic-scientist-doesnt-tell-you-7-postmortem-responses-dead-body-314404. Esophagus: .. Celeste and Bellas bodies were each inside one of the tanks. It is most likely that the girls were dead by 6 PM Sunday night already, which was why Chris couldnt reschedule the murders as soon as he heard ShanAnns flight would be delayed, thereby cutting dangerously into his cleanup time. She also had Lupus, and was 15-16 weeks pregnant, which could have been the reason why she wasnt feeling well. Chris stated that his wife smothered her children and im sure hes lying but i was hoping to read somewhere here of proof that chris also smothered his kids. Stranglehold Theory. She was pregnant some women have very sore breasts when pregnant and the bra adds support & comfort. And the decision to move Chris out of state as well? I tend to have the feeling ; with the way the justice system and penalties are enforced in the US .that he is probably in solitary confinement for his own protection!! If he did it he would have killed in the same manner of death which would have been strangulation not smothering. There is supposed to be a black smear mark on one of her pillows, possibly from makeup she was wearing, indicating that she was crying. Neither of them passed any body fluids. Info released has stated she had some suitcases still packed, in her bedroom, from the SC trip, and there were other things (like her purses being messy) that just keeps chipping away at true, almost disabling sort of OCD tendencies. They obviously didnt watch the K9 body cam footage! I am doing a project for school and i would like to have a look at them. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. They went to her house and observed her car in the garage. There are a lot of types online who get off on blaming victims for what others do. Then I think he panicked and was scared and didnt know what to do. Why would she quit her job to be a stay-at-home mom and then put the tots right into full-time daycare? But from Molletts work, it seems the alcohol levels in Shananns body were normal. 75 mls is about 5 tablespoons or a third of a standard cup. Like someone took over his body. He has to be asked if he EVER went to look at Bella and see what condition she was in. no she was a good mom who looked after her kids! I once witnessed where someone used Tequila in a hookah instead of water. It is my opinion that one could not have this mix in the stomach unless it was swallowed and if the stomping on the head didnt bring Bella out of unconsciousness before being immersed in the oil, then she was very possibly (and hopefully) unaware of what was happening. 53 102 comments sorted by New Add a Comment She seemed to be in pajamas which indicates she got into bed, which sickly matches up with his barely got into bed remark, The sheets were stripped because they probably got pulled off anyway during the act. Several life experiences may also have contributed to and promoted OCD-like behaviours in Shanann too the loss of financial control during bankruptcy, divorce, car accident, illness etc all contribute to a person seeking the need for regaining control of their life which can manifest as a place for everything and everything in its place behaviours. The only thing that could have screwed with this is that $69 charge to the Lazy Dog. Shed been drinking?? Not the best proof, but it adds to the chance there was planning. In fact, its not just the muscles but also the gas produced inside your body following death that will cause peeing and pooping. Addendum: The cadaver dog wasaso very interested in the washing machine and his handler, Jayne, says quite clearly that her dog has scented death by the machine (check the K9 video, but watch the volume, the cadaver dogs bark is quite shrill! He has an incredible amount of knowledge and has a lot of experience being an investigative reporter and author of many blogs and books. Also, I highly doubt Shanann was killed by pulling her down onto her back. Not on his hands around her throat? She often plied them with food and treats and I just felt like she needed to set some boundaries. Chris said he forgot the phone. She is OCD and very ritualistic in nature. There was a largely decomposed fetus expelled from the uterus. If she was murdered in bed, why isnt there any evidence of that? Based on the clothing they were found in, probably Chris pretended to be asleep. Utter Rubbish! Police photos Jayne is an EXTREMELY experienced K9 handler she can be seen in action in the Docu-Movie Missing 411. We know that she went to her office and attempted to order haircare products, and in the welfare check footage you can clearly see a large dark blanket on the sofa, and two small pink chair beds by the side of the sofa. FACT: (this is horrific and the worst thing in the whole case, in my opinion). Bella was face up in the oil tank. But there were some issues. In that sense when you learn her OCD was a significant factor, you ask how significant. Subdued and buried alive perhaps? MYTH: OCD IS JUST ABOUT HAND-WASHING, CLEANING, AND BEING NEAT. Ive linked an article below for everyone to read about how harmful perpetuating this lie is. It takes 2-4 min for a person to die from smothering or strangulation. This was the last time she was seen alive. He says he never saw what happened to Bella because he was downstairs. x, Ive said this before. IF the girls were sedated (with ShanAnns leftover oxycodone) before suffocation, it would have been very easy to make sure they were both in diapers CeCe was still wearing nighttime diapers at least, and these would have served for an incapacitated Bella they didnt need to be the right size, since she wouldnt be moving around. I was terrified gravity would wreck my boobs. He said Shanann said she was going to a friends house with their two kids. Meacham [who knew Shanann from school] described Shanaan as OCD in the way the household operated. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/12/lkl.01.html, https://shakedowntitle.com/tag/scott-peterson/, http://www.timescall.com/ci_32281483/autopsy-reports-show-shanann-watts-daughters-were-asphyxiated, https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/05/12/i-didnt-know-i-had-ocd-heres-why-the-stereotypes-are-so-harmful/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE, https://crimerocket.com/2018/11/02/shanann-watts-intended-to-brand-baby-niko-and-credit-thrive-for-her-perfect-pregnancy-but-her-plan-backfired/, https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-woman-made-a-life-changing-decision-after-her-husband-gave-600000-to-a-cult-2017-07-10, Christopher Watts: What else do we know? Not Shanann! (RJ Sangosti/The Denver Post via AP, Pool) Autopsy reports released Monday afternoon reveal in the greatest detail so far what, exactly, Christopher Watts pleaded guilty to, and why he'll serve the rest of his life in prison.The reports for Watts' pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, 34; Bella Watts, 4; and Celeste Watts, 3; show Watts killed his . Colorado is very rural. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time. CeCe did not have any marks & I attribute that to her age, not understanding what was happening & Im sure she lost consciousness quickly as she had breathing problems. Here is the parts in Shanann's autopsy report that says the stuff about how her hair was sloughing, that she had skin slippage & bloating/decomposing had started. She texted him the morning she left for Arizona thanking him for letting her hold him that morning. He also said he didnt know where they were and he thought they were coming back. I am 57, I weigh 132 lbs.. .,,, I had my husband straddle my chest and pin my arms down and Im telling you right now, I could not move. I find it more comfortable & Ive always been afraid of sagging. Dont jump on me buthear me bnb ot, I believe Chris. So its OCD when it comes to what people see, both house and life if you will..but a suitcase at 2 am, 4 months pregnant, I could easily see her saying nope to carrying that suitcase upstairs. Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. ( oh & yes there were handprints in both sides of her neck according to autopsy ) on his arms? He had to be gripping her face pretty damn hard to leave fingerprint bruises along the left side of her face. Nickole called Chris several times and he kept giving different arrival times. Or putting her down. Bellas covers were pulled off and she was just lying in bed. The bra thing means nothing, my daughter is big busted as well and slept in her bra when she was pregnant because her breasts that were tender were less bothersome at night if she wore one. He eventually disappeared for long time, gave me house. I actually have been turned upside down by this murder, and through watching over 42 hours of video, have grown to love and admire Shannan! Just a suggestion. No, this does not indicate that she was still alive. Unless I missed it? I doubt shed just leave her phone and stuff downstairs like that. I think she was going to do what most of us who suspect our man of cheating would do, see who the server was, and go to the restaurant with a pic of Chris & ask who he was in there with. As a former forensic detective I dont completely agree with the DAs comment that it is normal. Also just because she was strangled and they were suffocated doesnt mean dirt. That is simply a common misconception/stereotype that is very harmful and untrue. So Shananns OCD personality stopped that night? Autopsy shows oil, water, and sludge in their lungs, which cannot happen when you are dead. Remember Nickols son found her cell phone in-between the cushions of the upstairs couch. I actually don't understand this and would think the opposite would actually be true. Ive seen many people die in the hospital where I worked- not everyone poops when they die (and their stomachs were empty)- except the oil in the Angels stomach. Myth: OCD is just about HAND-WASHING, CLEANING, and being all lovey dovey in her unconsciousness of hoping... Police reports panicked and was 15-16 weeks pregnant, which could have screwed with this the. Knew Shanann from school ] described Shanaan as OCD in the police let them stay in.. 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